. If NSM is good enough for USN & Germany its good enough for RN. Spain is sending warships to join Nato naval forces in the Mediterranean and the Black Sea, and Denmark also said it would send a frigate to the Baltic Sea. Merkel should not have abandoned Germanys nuclear power generation capability, and become so reliant on Russian gas. But then we are talking about a Govt that is all style (and what style that is these days judging by the No.10 makeover) over remote substance and my do those Type 45s look smart and mean when they are out on the water especially when they have a dragon on the bow though Boris would probably add flock wallpaper as camaflage. Russian warships have been spotted off the British coast. "I am sure that such a powerful weapon will allow us to reliably protect Russia from potential external threats and help ensure our country's national interests. Should be a 10 year rule everything gets stored for at least 10 years in case needed. 'We are asking for more, and we are expecting to have more,' Mr Prystaiko told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. The Russian strongman will be sending warships within Ireland's maritime economic zone - around 240km off the southwest cost of Ireland. A pair of those would make a proper mess of todays warships. Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. Ultimately, the maneuver ends abruptly. Russia said it had ventured as far as 3 km (2 miles) into Russian waters near Cape Fiolent, a landmark on Crimea's southern coast near the port of Sevastopol, headquarters of the Russian Navy's Black Sea fleet. The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. This is a normal response to transiting warships from other nations., Russian amphibious assault flotilla to transit English Channel. Trump kissed Putins behind in every way possible to the point he tried to break our democracy on the 6th of January, 2021. More info. These vessels are more than likely head to Syria to onload stores. I stand by my comments and time will tell. This is a US created crisis for US domestic reasons. Im Amazed at Germany and Frances response. Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. F35 will also receive SPEAR 3 which also has anti ship capability. Will it damage to a ship? Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. So many completely underestimate the complexity and difficulties of achieving the kill chain with Anti ship missiles. https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ With the clown we have as PM? If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. Will Stewart It builds up its arsenal in one location to make the world think thats the location they are going to attack. Also known as SPEAR capability 5. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". "Escorting the Russian task group alongside forces from our NATO allies has demonstrated the UKs commitment to the alliance and to maintaining maritime security. Again, your assessment that putting 2,000 US troops into Ukraine before the status quo has changed, would not have detered 100,000+ troops amassing on the border or the worldwideRead more . Pity we dont have an enormous fleet of attack submarines to take out surface ships. Its possible if Putin gets really aggressive it could unite the US to someRead more . Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. Surely he loses more than he gains. They hit targets of a 'simulated enemy' in 'large-scale' exercises involving 500 military personnel. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? But Russia? Syria is not a big news story for Putin. Pretty much what their President told them on the TV a couple of days ago. But the latest intelligence now has Ministry of Defence chiefs worried about a much larger incursion, raising fears of warfare engulfing cities and high civilian death tolls. READ NEXT:Army poised to send 'game-changing' tanks to Ukraine to smash RussiaBefore and after maps show Russia's territorial losses in UkraineUK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontlineCleverly under pressure over German spy - Britain battles 'silent war'Putin replaces 'General Armageddon' after three months in top job. In Moscow, Russia summoned Ambassador Deborah Bronnert for a reprimand over what it said were Britain's "dangerous" action in the Black Sea - while foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova accused London of "barefaced lies". Thanks for that. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. production rates are a worry. Its all well and good having such weapons, but they arent much good without good accurate targeting information. Actually, its an interesting point. Britain was unexpectedly embroiled in a diplomatic and military dispute with Russia on Wednesday after Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender briefly sailed through territorial waters off the coast. But what might a Russian attack look like and what could it seek to achieve? Thu Feb 3 2022 - 19:50. The Defence Forces is monitoring a group of Russia warships which have been spotted acting unusually off the south of the country. On western side it was concern that with the post Soviet economic collapse theyd end up in very dodgy countries hands. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. If Biden was was standing up to Putin hed use some of that military grunt they have. Who do you think got impeached by the US House for trying to compromise Zelensky? If this invasion happens it could well lead to the Chinese taking the opportunity to seize Taiwan, Iran will cause trouble in the Straits of Homuz and missile man could well take the opportunity to invade the South. I really dont disagree with you. EFP is tripwire forces (and not many of them ie only 3 Battlegroups in total) to prevent Russian incursions into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or rather to reassue the peoples of those countries they are not going to affect the Russo-Ukraine situaution. THE Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships stalking Britain's coast in the past two weeks. EFP is irrelevant to the Russo-Ukraine situation. Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. They are not a golden bullet. In theory . Ukraine has long accused Russia of having regular troops in the region, something Moscow denies. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? The US Putting a small number of troops in Ukraine is a line in the sand a powerful symbol of intent to the Russians of repucussions if they invade. But what if Russias is using the same effect in reverse. No warning shots had been fired and no bombs had been dropped in the path of the Royal Navy destroyer Defender, it said. I tell you what happened ; the worst thing that people in this Country did, come out of Europe. Russia seized and annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 and considers areas around its coast to be Russian waters. I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. If it doesnt conform to the official line it gets spiked. Yes China has been throwing money at increasing the capabilities and sheer size of its military in it race to become the worlds dominant hyper-power. In such a febrile atmosphere, the risk of a misunderstanding or unplanned escalation is greater, and Russia could use such an incident as a casus belli. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday Moscow was not ready to wait forever for a response and that it wanted a detailed written response to every Russian proposal. Asking whether Australia will sell us a handful of their Block II Harpoons; the practical solution to the (cancelled) interim AShM requirement? We have Astute, which is the finest anti ship weapon in the world, along with NATO and allied nuclear boats, its enough toRead more . Defence chiefs have been keen to suggest new cyber and space capabilities will be major beneficiaries of any extra money for Defence. "These are Ukrainian waters and it was entirely right to use them to go from A to B," Johnson said. I didnt think anyone could be worse than Trump. There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. Dont forget its got a great habit of hitting other random stuff like holiday homes or your best mates frigate. I cant believe Putin seriously wants to invade Ukraine he would lose far more than he gained. Oh, that would be Slovakia and Poland for example who have NATO aircraft from America not to mention eFP fighters in Lithuania, Estonia and Bulgaria. If this new cold war turns into something nasty, our T45 should have something better than Harpoon to engage enemy ships. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. THey may have a go at making life uncomfortable for the US there as well. Special Forces, or a couple of thousand US Marines or Paratroopers. Wallace should put his bloody foot down, overule objections and get an off the shelf system fitted PDQ. Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Russia isnt confident, Putin is looking for foreign enemies to placate the growing criticism at home. So will Taiwan. Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. The region has been on a knife-edge since the end of last year when Moscow moved as many as 100,000 troops, as well as tanks and missiles, close to the border. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. No Typhoons in Romania at present, but USAF F-15Es there. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. NATOs multinational battlegroup in Bulgaria reached full operational capability on Wednesday. Thats an oversight. REUTERS/Sergey Smolentsev. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. Pity we didnt keep developing the 6 system fitted to Tiger and Blake? Didnt Bidens Son in law have an interest in the Ukraine (monetary) ? In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. the less we have to do with the ukraine the better. Didnt work out too well last time. He may lose power after a disastrous foreign adventure. Mind you cant complain about my pension, thank God for SERPS. US truckers are heavily non vaccinated. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. Its not a valid comparison in 2003 the Russian was in a post Yeltsin mess and in no way capable of acting as a deterrent to US forces. A Ministry of Defence Spokesperson told me: As part of a unified response with our allies, the Royal Navy are monitoring the presence of Russian Ships as they transit through the English Channel. The result is a net drop in drivers. the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. WW1 & WW2 were not just ended by fighting but the economic ability of Germany to out produce the allies. The Sentinel 2 satellite image, taken at 11:47 local time, shows at least 14 vessels. He would have stolen a march under US noses, scored a propaganda victory, brought Iraq under Russian influence and probably have prevented the 2003 invasion. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russia's Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a "show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts" General . The 4.5 has the range, accuracy and stopping power to deal with that kind of threat. Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. We are now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack on Ukraine.'. As to the vaccine mandate, you are aware of the cross US/Canada border restrictions that came into force today that affect 50% or so drivers and the log jams in US west coast ports? I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. Preliminary analysis of the vessels suggests 3 groups. The assessment, seen by CNN, described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States to ensure security on the European continent'. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. The White House corrected the off the cuff remark from the long press conference. Food, the are a exporter of food. SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. So is his agenda really totally different? LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the. Land, they have plenty. Ooops! The White Housewarned yesterday the situation was 'extremely dangerous' and that Moscow could launch an attack 'at any point'. Times where unity is needed he takes EU presidency and is calling for the EU to do their own deal with Russia. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. Dont think its just down to initial build costs either, providing a crew for the kit and paying for them over the lifetime of the ship/s probably has a bearing on this issue too. Cheers dave , I think our boss were trying too make us look on the bright side I doubt if the Careers office would have stated that when we signed up, And yet, of all the capability gaps, this one worries the RN the least. By Sam Greenhill Chief Reporter for the Daily Mail. Its a gap that worries the ranks the most! RNs lack of AsUW is a gamble, otherwise why retain harpoon? "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. Or how much BS the kremlin comes up with, I think RT chat forum is your home you have many friends there Ivan lol. Were you not barred a couple of years ago from this site? The vessels were found by Naval News with the help of Damien Symon, an independent defense analyst. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. Germany was starved to death in WW1 by the blockade of the North sea and WW2 bomber command destroyed its industrial might. Much as he did in Syria . Whilst the Canada and now Mexico border problems are now very real indeed. Since then its been regular movements in/out as the Russian military cycled as many as possible through Syria for the experience. Russia plans to deploy KALIBR capability on all new design construction nuclear and non-nuclear submarines, corvettes, frigates, and larger surface ships. Biden??? Saying your putting your entire navy to sea simultaneously across every theatre you operate in is a bit of a red flag.. though considering the state of the Russian navy if even 25% of the ships leave harbour I will be surprised. Kongsberg have said that it will also be fitted to NSM. Exact date yellow weather warning for snow and ice forecast to hit UK - will you be affected? Maybe, but are you disputing the accuracy of my first sentence? History shows the wisdom of that comment, it was expressed by Montgomery slightly differently. Our carriers will only come intoRead more . I think so. The reason they were happy to get rid was cost. Well the attacks came from Yemen itself as did missiles over night last night they arent coming from Iranian soil. View our online Press Pack. Try it too often, find work elsewhere. The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. You must have access to a higher level of intel than me then. LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . I can see why you next comment was For starters. Some operating virtually continuously for a couple of years or more on a return trip every month. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along. Purely theoretical, but just imagine Putin had deployed military units to Iraq in 2002/2003 as peacekeepers and to secure WMD. The Army will undergo its most comprehensive modernisation since the 1980sIt will experiment its way to robotic and autonomous capabilities. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Most of its armour is 25+ years old, its tube artillery is a similar age and is seriously out ranged by modern Russian systems and they have just announced a cut in numbers to about 75,000..! Nuclear centrifuge assembly plants. We should grant him that and make it a reality. Kongsberg have said that the NSM will also get the receiver. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. But at various times four navy frigates were deployed. A very rugged and reliable ship, only 500 tons carrying capacity but their operation in Syria would not have been possible without the. Hi Ron. AnyRead more , Once again I must say that your assessment is spot on. Could be a rerun of the 1904 Russian fleet of to the far East didnt go too well for them then but they did attack Traelers of dogger bank. https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2021/03/17/us-navy-set-to-take-delivery-of-the-latest-version-of-its-tomahawk-missile/. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week warned the United States that the hypersonic missiles would soon be close to NATO's shores. Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. I somehow doubt it. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! The Russian ships' 'highly irregular' movements sparked Swedish authorities to deploy hundreds of troops and armoured vehicles to the island of Gotland. Regardless of whatever you think about climate change, Greta whinberg ensures anyone over 25 gets irritated by her patronising childish ways. I agree with your 10 year rule. Russkie pension, weekly bucket of spuds and one litre of 2 stroke. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. Russia has accused Kyiv of harbouring plans to retake the region by force, something Ukraine denies. French President Emmanuel Macron has offered to send troops to Romania., https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60077776. Stand by to be surprised. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. Tabloid sensationalism Im afraid Tommo. This is possible by the combination of an imaging infrared (IIR) seeker and an onboard target database. It is certainly andy reeves again! No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. Estonia is sending Javelin anti-armor missiles while Latvia and Lithuania are sending Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and related equipment, according to a Friday statement by the countries defense ministers. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? However, the IDF has a long standing policy of refusing to confirm or deny allegations ofRead more . Not sure how I forgot to put Estonia in my answer. For use in the littoral, these also need to be smart weapons, able to accurately discriminate between types of ships not good to go sinking the wrong ships! 5 Correction. NATO Aid to the Ukraine is not some knee jerk reaction to current events,there have been initiatives underway since independence in 1991,and especially since 2014,in the case of the UK under Operation Orbital. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps.
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